December Disassociate and Chill TV Thread

[sonatine]

December 18th.

Looks a bit overwrought to be honest but you know, fuck it, who doesnt like a well filmed western period piece.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SIXEy4cwiw

[sonatine]

fuck it im in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWjGHVGeXc0

[betcheckbet]

For Jan

[sonatine]

ill start a jan thread and move these to them because it is time

[gimmick]

BMF document was ok. Better than 50 cent drama series about BMF. I didn't know Meech's son played Meech.

I watched the second season of the Wu-Tang show like a day ago. Worse than the 1st one. Still hate the dude who plays RZA. ODB and Meth are still solid casting choices. Hate every random extra gimmick they crammed to the show. By all accounts it was interesting enough period to just record the events with slight over dramatization. Don't try to make producing flashier than it is. Pro Tools wasn't a big secret. I hate every monologue/speech in the show.

Most "sayings/words" RZA "invented" were cringey/retarded already in the 90s/00s. They didn't age like wine. Just pretend like they never existed, bong bong.

edit: Streetwear porn looks right. Anything related to graffiti is weak. Also trying to make writing bars flashier than it is, is just retarded. No one writes in the booth when you're paying for studio time.

[sonatine]

the wu tang series has accomplished one thing beyond all others; it has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that wu tang has always been kinda corny.

[gimmick]

I had Willow running in the background when I was doing something else. It wasn't the worst thing ever. Can't remember the movie. Fairly sure I've seen it.

I think I need to get Paramount sub again. The 1923 spinoff is coming and I don't mind Yellowstone.

The Witcher spinoff is coming on the 25th or so. It might not suck. Fairly sure it does, but I'll still watch it. No idea what happens to the main show. I think Cavill is gone after S3 and I'm guessing he was the only one that cared about franchise.

I'm afraid I need to do something productive or start re-watching shows to fill the time. For the productive department there's getting in some shape, work on drawing/painting related to something with mass appeal and/or learning Godot. For re-watching I think it's soon time for S2 of Euphoria, maybe House of the Dragon and that's about all I can think of. I hate doing productive things. Only reason I got back to drawing is that for me it's the simplest way of accessing flow state. All the benefits of meditation without the boredom and random hippy shit.

[sonatine]

i keep hearing how boring will is and honestly that does nothing but encourage me to watch it.

[gimmick]

Finished Andor. It was great. Didn't expect it. 2022 top 3 shows for me were Andor, HotD and Euphoria S2 in no particular order.

[sonatine]

honestly 2022 really had some fucking bangers huh.

[gimmick]

Yea I have no idea how Andor was ever greenlit. Random goodwill with Gilroy brothers, blackmail and/or corporate ayahuasca retreats are the first things I can think of.

What's the pitch to begin with? Prequel of a prequel where barely no one cares about the title character and has an expiration date of about 2 seasons. The main villains are the 3rd Reich Ellen DeGeneres and an overzealous security guard. Non-existing appeal for toddlers/mouthbreathers and questionable residual income related to merchandise.

First season is a set-up for espionage oriented second season and the 1st season is a combination of a heist/prison escape story that's tied together with an overarching theme of overthrowing a fascist regime. A very morally grey tale in an otherwise black and white franchise.

In a mostly pg-13 universe skating a very blurred line between terrorism and insurgency. Everything above is a complete mystery to me. How is this a Disney thing?

From my perspective this single season did more world building than all previous titles combined. It's not really a mystery why the show fucks. Get competent people and let them do what they're good at. Stop trying to micromanage professionals and just let them do what they were hired for. Doesn't mean there isn't multiple editing phases that are vital to any sizable project. It's still a balancing act. There are limitations that are beneficial for creativity and then there limitations that are suppressive. From poker the phrase "it depends" as a response makes sense to most people that have studied the game and it's fairly common that all you can say with limited information is "dunno, wasn't at the table". I can't think of too many top down creeds that are beneficial. Binary things are easy to prove. Obv you can obfuscate binary beliefs, but it's counterproductive in the long term. TLDR is just why hire people for their skills/judgement, if you don't trust them to do the thing you hired them for in the first place?

There are no gleaming weaknesses with the show. In a different world that would be the baseline for media. Kinda goes out the window when boom phases are artificially extended. Bust phases are our evolutionary mechanism for most markets that are allowed free movement or at least something resembling resistance related to competence. Media has behaved oddly in the last decade. Running theme of risk aversion, that maybe related to production costs. Complete tards are allowed to smear feces to walls as long as the projects they're tied to tick certain boxes to get a AAA score. You have things that cost less than 1m, 20m and 200m or more for movies. TV shows follow a similar ratio. A bear mentality in a bull funding sphere. A weird combination off excess capital with almost non existent speculative movement. Somehow they never ran out off mediocre 20m/200m+ projects. The stonk equivalent would have been all the money getting invested to S&P 500 and that's a mark of an unhealthy market because it's so irrational.

If I had a point, I forgot it at some point.

[gimmick]

The Witcher spinoff was really bad. It was only 4 episodes, so I guess that's a positive.

Mike was decent. Kinda bleak and mildly disturbing.

The recruit was tolerable. Maybe 3rd or 4th best spy thingie in 2022.

Finished 2nd and 3rd season of Motherland Fort Salem. Wouldn't recommend those to anyone. Still not the worst background noise.

Willow is getting worse.

I watched a few episodes of National Treasure. No interest of ever finishing it. Catherine Zeta Jones was in it. The Darling Buds of May was ok, so I guess it's a wash between that and giving cancer to Michael Douglas.

Pam & Tommy thingie was mildly amusing.

The Old Man was decent. Dude was in it.

Really the running theme is that I need start doing something more productive instead of being distracted by shiny things.

[betcheckbet]

So I binged and finished season 2 of Alice in Borderlands. As mentioned, it certainly has it flaws but despite that I was extremely impressed and somehow it manages to wrap everything up so nicely (surprisingly good finish). My partner liked it to the point that I ended up getting her the first few versions of the Manga books its based on (neither of us have ever read any manga). I somehow managed to swallow my pride and head into the teen Manga section at Chapters to buy them...

[sonatine]

fuck why dont i watch this, whats wrong with me.

2023 i fix it.

[sonatine]

The Witcher spinoff was really bad. It was only 4 episodes, so I guess that's a positive.

im about 20 minutes in and i just... dont... give a fuck.

and for a second i was like wow am i being a dick about this and i googled it because i wanted to check and see when it came out and holy shit:



like i get it, people love to dogpile on anything vaguely multiethnic at this point but that is fucking decisive.

[betcheckbet]

Watched "this place rules". Got through about half of it. I'm pretty neutral when it comes to Andrew Callaghan.

This Place Rules proves that Andrew is funny in small bursts of 5-10 mins. Well not really that he's funny but that his subjects are. But trying to watch his stuff for longer than 20 mins is pretty bad. It's all the usual MAGA idiots from PFA. If you;ve participated on that forum in the past 2 years then you know what this movie is about. It has nothing on Who is America which is better in every conceivable way.

Callaghan doesn't really have a clear narrative, much like the trump thread at PFA, and he doesn't seem to want one. He's perfectly fine with the "look how stupid Jan 6's are" which allows him to please both sides since it confirms both the left and right's narratives about Jan 6th (left that Jan 6ers are lunatics and right that the Jan6 lunatics are separate entity from MAGA). This Place Rules does little to explore how the intellectually disabled have been exploited and for what purposes.

In short it's a poor Jan 6th doc among already a sea of them.

[sonatine]

callaghan is kind of an interesting case study i suppose. he hunts softballs being lobbed over the plate and then bunts them. basically he makes memes, not documentaries, is the best way i can put it.

[sonatine]

So I binged and finished season 2 of Alice in Borderlands. As mentioned, it certainly has it flaws but despite that I was extremely impressed and somehow it manages to wrap everything up so nicely (surprisingly good finish). My partner liked it to the point that I ended up getting her the first few versions of the Manga books its based on (neither of us have ever read any manga). I somehow managed to swallow my pride and head into the teen Manga section at Chapters to buy them...

just started alice in borderlands season 1. i like it, it is what it is. but its kinda telling that squid games takes a similar dynamic and weaves a morality tale into it while condemning both society and human nature, creating this really incredible tapestry.

this is just kind of like, jigsaw flavored murderporn with a random scifi act of god driving it forward.

and look im not judging that, im fine with it. its just interesting, the comparison.

[sonatine]

BMF document was ok. Better than 50 cent drama series about BMF. I didn't know Meech's son played Meech.

im 6/8 episodes deep on the BMF doc and honestly its really, really good. the re-enactment scenes are pretty corny but that seems to be the price of admission on these sorts of things these days.

all said and done i like this kinda no bullshit documentary style where they just let people speak their truth and cast a wide net for subjects.

plus its just a really interesting moment in time, the whole bmf phenom.

like compare that to the current vibes in chicago, jacksonville, etc where everything is basically videogame level violence 24/7. its interesting how things change when you knock out the stabilizing parties. same as in mexico with the cartels. once upon a time the general logic was 'kill the head and the body will die' and lately thats being proven super wrong; you just end up with a dozen new heads, each competing for resources with the others, and the only way to win is to be more violent and unpredictable than the rest.