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there have always been functional schizophrenics willing to carry the football no matter how bizarre it seems. but we are at a tipping point, thankfully, where qanon can no longer survive as a mainstream movement because the sheer volume of failed predictions. i think that even among the Very Seriously Dangerous people congealing around Flynn/Trump, qanon narratives are yielding diminishing returns. at least i hope so. but its getting more common to see high profile accounts start to disengage/question and thats good news by any measure.
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i think that when flynn started pandering to the Q crowd, it absolutely became mainstream. he's trumps immediate proxy, he held the right clearance, so yeah he carries a ton of weight, so when he started in on that 'deep state' Q narrative, it became something of a core pillar for whatever this hybrid version of the republican party is that held sway for the last few years.
like when states started electing senators espousing hardcore Q theories, thats mainstream to me, absolutely.
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Well we have riveting chat with Druff on the other site about politicians that got swept in the QAnon purge. Apparently that's just standard leftist bias. There's so many things wrong with that picture. First they somehow got elected. Secondly a Reagan era republican spending any time defending them. Third we're now suddenly worried about corporations having too much power. I'm sure there's few other things, but it's safe to say QAnon is mainstream.
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you know whats wild.. 30 years ago, all this Q shit would have been very typical left wing fringe tinfoil hat positions. right down to the 'we need to break up these big corporations telling us what to think'. like there were whole ass actual cults where people 'deciphered messages from angels/aliens/god/etc'.
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apparently there is a celebrity Q account called E that is now soliciting venmo donations so they can 'continue their important work' and yes we have entered that phase of the grift.
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Originally posted by sonatine View Postyou know whats wild.. 30 years ago, all this Q shit would have been very typical left wing fringe tinfoil hat positions. right down to the 'we need to break up these big corporations telling us what to think'. like there were whole ass actual cults where people 'deciphered messages from angels/aliens/god/etc'.
I don't really think any of this would have happened without Twitter/Facebook. The Right has had their insular information bubble that strengthens their belief in the whatever cause was the FOTM at the time, but they struggled with new recruits. There wasn't really a route that provided smooth gradation from normal to batshit crazy.
Now though it might not be as big of a problem, because the camp of true believers is so big that they can rely on word to mouth to pull fresh fish to whatever dark corner of internet they call home from now on.
That said the far right has always had an element of magical thinking in the mix. Nazi's had their occult stuff. I doubt Hitler ever cared too much about it, but he saw it beneficial. I forget who was the main architect. Spear of Destiny and other crap like that.
Oh well there should be an interesting few days ahead.
ps. another weird flip is magatards fondness to 1984. Orwell was a lifelong socialist.
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social media + memes have created an actual mass hysteria event. hitler had his black masses before his rallies but what he really wanted was this.
i grew up in the 80s, i remember cults, i remember deprogramming centers. they are going to need to start flipping camera friendly magas so hbo can do a documentary on their recovery. i dont see any other play here. someone needs to offer magas a safe space that doesnt do too much damage to their pride/egos or they are never, ever unwinding from this shit.
i look at that capital crowd and i see thousands of timothy mcveighs in the making. if we do absolutely everything right we can maybe get that number down to hundreds of even dozens.
otherwise... they are going to grab onto whatever radical agenda they can after maga dries up.
no bullshit, i expect quite a few of these yokels will end up falling into the radical islamic jihad pipeline by this time next year.
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Yea i have no idea how this plays out. Some variation of Nürnberg trials is one option. Blanket amnesty for most while pointing the finger at few.
The capitol thing and month before that was the first time when they weren't treated with silk gloves and that minimal escalation blew up. Before that they could rely on back the blue, hide behind them and have them look the other way. No one had taken away their toys. And the end result was the biggest single event against democracy in the first world in the last 40 years.
It did serve as a wake up call. It ramped up any countermeasures. And in a decade some of the free speech crowd might warm up the idea that just maybe we can't trust the general population to make rational decisions that don't threaten democracy.
I've written about this before but Europe had to make that decision after WWII. Either there's something wrong with the Germans or people can be manipulated into doing horrible things. Ethnic cleansing or hate speech laws.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUrM4rkuqLM
just fast forward to 0:23 and hard stop at like 1:05, im so so sorry that these insufferable cumstains are narrating this video.
tl;dr alex jones just turned on Q.
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Somewhat related how this headline becomes reality...
"Republican congresswoman apologizes for saying ‘Hitler was right on one thing’"
...how do you get to that. A written speech where a congresswoman thought it was a good idea to say that.
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