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    General First Impressions

    I cant quite believe this prop trading firm is real. Like honestly where to begin... first off, their website automatically sent me to a bunch of weird spanish links:

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    Right off the bat I'm like, ok am I about to get rugged? But apparently they are based out of Texas... ?

    Ok whatever, so I'm looking at the packages they offer and its basically the run of the mill 50,000 / 70,000 / 100,000 USD packages with reasonable non-trailing drawdowns. So right off, I'm kinda intrigued.

    I start looking at the 100k package:

    12 contracts / $2200 drawdown. On a trailing drawdown, $2200 would be really stressing me out. But their drawdown system doesnt play that shit. So at 12 contracts, I can take down $600 a point... and the profit threshold for funding is $6000... so I just need to bink 10 points and then pad out the rest of the 10 required trading days.

    You know what? Doable.

    And then we have their payout policy. Folks... I have no fucking words. If they actually live up to whats being offered here, this is a brave new era of degeneracy:

    I'm just going to cut / paste here because honestly I'm just speechless:

    Request processing time in less than 24 hours. Funds withdrawal consists of 2 stages: processing of the request execution at the close of the market 16.10 EST.

    24/7 service. The withdrawal system works 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. All of our traders can withdraw their funds at any time, even at night, on weekends or holidays.


    Withdrawal methods include: Paypal, bank wire, ACH, international wire transfer, cryptos (USDC o USDT), Visa and Mastercard.



    * bites knuckle *

    Are you fucking kidding me? That's unbelievably sick, you can literally run it up crucial with 12 fucking contracts, which is more than enough leverage to take down $10k+ in an hour or two, and then cash it the fuck out to your bank account, credit card, or CRYPTO WALLET within 24 hours of the request being made.

    No muss, no fuss.

    Now. Yes, there is a catch.

    For the first 40 days, ( thats 2 months of trading once funded) they rake 50% of your earnings. After 2 months / 40 trading days, they drop back to the industry standard 80/20 split in my favor.

    So yeah the first 40 days, if you cash out 10k, they keep 5k, you get 5k. After you file taxes at the end of the year, youre clearing $3250 or so off $10k. And yeah thats not great but its also $3250 for a day or two of highly +EV gambling using $100,000 of someone elses money.

    Or just leave the money in the account and cash out after the 41st trading day and your 10k after rake is $8000, or $5200 after taxes. Much, much better.

    If you want to do better than that, go be a fuckin bank.

    The price for the 100k combine is $315 a month. I signed up late last week, bought a reset for the usual $100 when I got caught out of position on my first try, and passed the gauntlet this morning before lunch:

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    So for the next 8 days, I'll be taking small ball positions with micro contracts to fulfill the 10 trading days total requirement without putting my $6000 minimum in any real jeopardy.

    In 2 weeks I should have funding and we can hopefully test out this withdrawal system.

    Oh one thing I should mention; the contract fees are rather extreme. Basically youre paying $5 'round trip' per contract, so when you take a 12 contract position, win or lose youre paying $60 for it. So when you combine that with the static drawdown, theres a fair amount of logic behind staying in the saddle and riding out reversals.

    It will be interesting to see how that impacts my PnL once funding is secured.

    Anyway you get the idea, the math is described in detail in the futures adventure thread.

    Will update in 2 weeks once papers are signed and funded account is live.

    But so far? Fuckin thumbs up on uprofit, wow.

  • #2
    muy bueno!!

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    • #3
      ok, very cool. account has been confirmed eligible for funding / ive passed the evaluation.

      im curious to see how long it takes to get access to the live account, ive heard some people say it can take like 6+ trading days, which isnt a super look but im not going to get hung up on it.

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      • #4
        less than 24 hours, as promised, paperwork delivered signed and returned.

        honestly my plan right now is really straight forward; im going to get $6k on the books ASAP and withdraw $3k for the 50% hit instead of letting it sit there for another 2 months until i can withdraw at 80% instead of 50% profits.

        im going to take that $3000 and put it on an actual futures trading account i maintain through ninjatrader directly, which means i'm eligible to withdraw literally 100% of profits whenever i want.

        ill 'tickle' the uprofit account and keep it alive so if i crash and burn the main account, hopefully i can build funds again through uprofit and rinse/wash/repeat.

        in any case once i have the main account up and running i can do shit like shift $2000 to leeloo and fund 3 x 30 contract accounts and do some actual whole ass yolo madness as described.

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        • #5
          looks like they have a 3-5 business day turnaround for turning up live accounts. i gotta hand it to leeloo here, they basically get you up and running within 24 hours of your account passing.

          honestly if leeloo just didnt have the 40 trading day until first cashout bullshit they would be dominating this industry.

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          • #6
            you know what?

            big fucking ups to uprofit. as of now im up and running on a live account.

            $2200 daily drawdown, $4500 safety net, starting with max 3 contracts and scaling up to 12.

            very, very impressed right now.

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            • #7
              so i pooched it and ill tell you exactly what the root of my demise was; when you go live, you get hit with scaling plan. psychologically thats absolutely vicious;

              - dont exit the trade because i need to rack up a big win so i can start pushing volume and see emotionally significant profits

              - trade reverses and i stay in the fucking saddle

              - suddenly im red and now im hodl'ing a loser position into the sunset because i know its going to reverse the second i exit.

              again, 100% on me. imo uprofit delivered what they promised. im debating what to do next right now. i like the idea of bootstrapping with uprofit and investing the money in a more lucrative combine like leeloo. the simple truth is that uprofit cant be beat re getting access to earnings fast. might go for a slightly less expensive option, they have a 6 contract / 50k equity account thats only $165 a month. will update when i make a decision.

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              • #8
                look lets just say im not exactly surprised, im just disappointed.

                /me spins 'hacked or rugged' wheel


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                • #9
                  Hello Uprofit’ers!
                  I wanted to come to you to personally apologize for the problems you might be experiencing with the website at the moment. As you may know—we are growing fast and we are quickly becoming one of the top firms in the industry. Due to this growth, we are learning a bit about ourselves and working hard in order to accommodate everyone through this transition.
                  We ask that you please be patient with us and know that we are doing everything we can to have you back on track with your testing and your funded accounts. We should have everything back up very soon so that you can get back to trading the markets as usual.
                  We thank you so much for being here with us, for understanding and for helping to make UPT #1 in the industry! We really couldn’t do it without you and we are so grateful that you chose UPT as your home.
                  Much appreciation and we are looking forward to growing together my friends!
                  Lindsay

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                  • #10
                    looks like they were migrating to a more robust server maybe.. in any case all appears to be well again.

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