I read this series as a kid. Pretty good, but it was definitely written more for a teenage audience than for adults, as most fantasy of this time was. And I don't know any serious fantasy buffs who think this series was better than GoT. Go to any fantasy fan site that has lists of fantasy series, and I would be shocked if any had this series higher than GoT.

Also, the author actually died before writing the last couple books, but left enough notes that another fantasy writer was able to take over and finish.

Also, this is grunching a little, but my memory was Morraine in the series was described as young (late 20s/early 30s), small, and very attractive (which was pretty common for female protagonists in fantasy during this time). So not sure I am feeling that casting choice based on the clip I saw. However, although there are A LOT of strong female characters the series is not particularly "woke," which is understandable given it was written by a middle age neck bearded white dude (go ahead and look at some pics) in the 80s-90s and the main audience is white, incel teenagers. So I am guessing lots of liberties in the "woke" direction will be made with the storyline.

Out of other fantasy franchises that weren't written for tweens Elric get's mentioned every few years. I think Witcher pushed it few years to the future. Sort of like it's similar but it didn't break the bank so it's not enough to be close to it. It's considered a flaw. Even though one work was inspired by the other, it's now tainted goods.

And Witcher had their too clever for their own good gimmick crap with a lot shitty characters.

Is this a Moorcock reference? because ive been watching that series languish in option/contract dispute after option/contract dispute for almost 30 years and i honestly dont anticipate this ending during my lifetime.

also apropos of absolutely nothing, moorcock and jg ballard studied under the same english professor in college. make of that what you will.

https://thewertzone.blogspot.com/202...-elric-tv.html

...and then it was gone.

I will say that WoT is in essence a cross between Dune and Lord of the Rings where the main protagonist (a heterosexual YA male named Rand) is the Paul/Frodo Messiah figure who goes on a coming of age quest to save the world from Evil. So the fact that the trailer focuses on a secondary female character (in all fairness she is prominent and has her own POV sections, so it isn't completely coming from left field) doesn't bode well as far as this story not being distorted into a wokeastrophe.

November release.

https://www.avclub.com/amazon-reveal...e-w-1847351881

I am basically here for the TV/Movie knowledge and discussion. 10.1.3

honestly we are _killing_ the tasteful tv viewing forum rankings.

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2021/...f-time-series/

Looks like they decided to make Morraine the central character of the show. Making an (imperfect) LOTR comparison, she is basically the Gandalf comp. The book has a ton of POV characters, that all get a lot of playtime, but Rand Al'Thor is the Dragon Reborn and clearly the main protagonist of the book series.

Shrug.

Also, this isn't really a spoiler as the way the books set up you can tell Rand is going to be The Dragon Reborn pretty early, although it takes several thousand pages to get there.

I was purposefully avoiding this series because I know that all the pro-feminism elements that were being added to it (which were completely unnecessary as the story already had a ton of strong female characters and wasn't misogynistic at all) would bother me.

Anyways, last night my wife really wanted to watch something I didn't want to watch at all, so I told her about this series instead as a better option (for me at least), so we watched the first couple episodes. It was OK. It takes a lot of liberties with the storyline for political correctness and brevity reasons, but broadly follows the main characters and storyline, and is reasonably entertaining. I actually am not sure how entertaining it is to someone who didn't read the books as it superficially goes through everything so fast. But the books are like 600 pages each and there are like 15 of them, so unless they planned on 200 episodes I dont know anyway around this.

I actually found it amusing how every time any character talked about the Dragon Reborn prophecy they made sure to emphasize it could be a he OR a she, when of course in the original prophecy it was never going to be a she. And it actually makes no sense that it could be a she, because the whole point is the Dragon Reborn is supposed to heal the male half of magic which the original Dragon poisoned. (semi spoiler, this is revealed in episode 1 so not really).

its indescribably naive to watch a contemporary sci-fi-fantasy series and clutch pearls over it being inclusive. the goals of everyone involved is to maximize the audience. thats show business. no business, no show.

whats more, scifi fantasy in 1990 was an incredibly white male affair. it was basically only a few years removed from the height of DnD. look at who was playing DnD in the mid/late 80s and you can see why the show runners cant afford to make a product that didnt stretch beyond that market; those kids arent really interested in scifi fantasy these days.

in any case... im not a fan so far but im miles from the target demographic, clearly. i dont know if ill stick with it or not but the last thing im going to do is try to clown the showrunners for skewing towards tween/teen multicultural pan-gender inclusivity.

the real problems for me so far is that the writing is dry, the politics are heavy handed, and the effects/production are pretty fuckin unsophisticated. not a lot of genius on display so far.

who knows tho, they might be starting slow.

Fair enough. My wife is enjoying it so far (although a lot of this is my ability to fill in all the holes of the world building/mythology) so we will keep watching. But yeah, I am definitely not the target demographic either at this point.

counterpoint, me and the wife just watched the first 2 seasons of a British series called Britannia set around the Roman’s invading Britain and fighting the Druid’s. And despite them going a little overboard with gender politics it is a great series written for a more adult audience, well written, and interesting and we really enjoyed it.